On Monday, March 20, the Elisabeth Haub School of Law at Pace University presented their annual Inaugural Equity & Justice Forum. Marcia Sells, Chief Diversity Officer, Metropolitan Opera, was the featured panelist for this inaugural forum titled, “Belonging – Centuries of Struggle,” which highlighted the challenges of diverse communities in the legal profession. The forum was moderated by Haub Law Professor and Director of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, Barbara Atwell.

In his introduction, Dean Horace E. Anderson, Jr. said, “We here at Haub Law are deeply committed to advancing racial and social justice in our community and more broadly throughout the world.” Dean Anderson noted Haub Law’s expanded social justice curriculum, its recently launched Access to Justice project, expanded pipeline and pathway programs, and more. He spoke of the importance of using conversations such as this as a way to reflect, evaluate and then effect further change, which is the purpose behind the Equity & Justice forum which will be an annual event at the law school, among other related events and programming.

Marcia Sells was appointed the first Chief Diversity Officer for the Metropolitan Opera in 2021. In this role for the largest performing arts institution in the nation, Marcia leads the development of diversity initiatives designed to address inequities in the art world and create a more inclusive workplace that values the diversity of its staff and the audiences it serves.

During the forum, Marcia spoke about her upbringing, her background as a ballerina, her law school experience, and the evolution of her career. The conversation between Professor Atwell and Marcia evolved into speaking not just about diversity, equity, and inclusion, but the greater sense of “belonging.” Marcia noted that, “Belonging has always been there,” but the crux of belonging now is, “how do we actually create as a community true space and acceptance?” The enlightening and engaging conversation, was followed by a Q&A session, which concluded with Marcia’s remarks that “We all have the right and responsibility to find that thing we do really, really well and go out there and do that.” A reception followed the event.

Prior to her current position, Marcia Sells held senior leadership positions in higher education, as Associate Dean and Dean of Students at Harvard Law School, at Columbia University where she had the dual-title of Associate Dean in the School of the Arts for Outreach & Education and Associate Vice President, Program Development & Initiatives, for the Office of Government and Community Affairs. Marcia also served as Dean of Students at Columbia University School of Law. Marcia’s varied work experiences have also included positions in the private and public sector for Reuters America, the National Basketball Association, and as Assistant District Attorney trying rape and child abuse cases for the Kings County District Attorney’s Office. Before going to college at Barnard and earning her law degree at Columbia Law School, Marcia began life in the arts as a ballerina in the Dance Theatre of Harlem and Cincinnati Ballet.

Horace E. Anderson Jr., Dean of the Elisabeth Haub School of Law at Pace University, has been named to the Board of Directors of the Westchester County Association (WCA).

Dean Anderson’s appointment is a reflection of the long-standing partnership between the Law School and the WCA on policy and programming, including collaborations with its Land Use Law Center and Energy and Climate Center. Together, they launched the Clean Energy Program Portal, which was recognized by Westchester County last year at its 3^rd annual ECO Awards. Among its most recent collaborations, Haub Law hosted the inaugural WCA Sustainable Business Conference, bringing together environmental law faculty and alumni experts with thought leaders from across the state to discuss ESG concepts, policy and innovations in business sustainability.

“As leader of an important educational institution located in the county, I am proud to have an opportunity, through service on WCA’s board, to contribute to the success of the business and nonprofit community in Westchester, and to the growth of the regional economy,” said Dean Anderson. “The law school and WCA have forged several successful collaborations over the years. We are excited to continue providing the ideas, expertise and energy of our students, faculty and staff – especially in the vital areas of sustainable business development, renewable energy, land use, and healthcare.”

“The reason the WCA can be so effective on issues that drive regional economy is because leaders like Dean Anderson step up and serve on our board,” said Michael N. Romita, President & CEO, Westchester County Association. “In his tenure at the Pace University Elisabeth Haub School of Law, Horace has already made invaluable contributions to our sustainability initiatives. We are fortunate to have his thoughtful expertise on our board and look forward to our continued partnership with his new role.”

As the preeminent business membership organization in Westchester County, the WCA is committed to business advocacy, economic vitality and to providing a strong and clear voice for the interests of businesses on the regional, national and international levels. The WCA represents professionals in real estate, healthcare, finance & banking, hospitality, technology and other professional services; as well as municipalities, nonprofit organizations and institutions of higher education – supporting their objectives through direct advocacy and original programming.

The Elisabeth Haub School of Law at Pace University is proud to announce that Professor Lisa Benjamin has been selected to receive the 2022-2023 Pace |Haub Environmental Law Distinguished Junior Scholar Award. The Haub Environmental Law Distinguished Junior Scholar Award is presented annually to an emerging junior environmental law professor who exhibits scholarly excellence and promise at an early stage in his/her career. The Haub Environmental Law Faculty solicits nominations from law professors throughout the country and selects a recipient from that pool of nominations. The award recipient is invited to present his/her recent scholarship to the Haub Law community.

Professor Lisa Benjamin is an Associate Professor of Law at Lewis & Clark Law School in Portland Oregon. Her research focuses on climate justice and climate risk, and how these issues intersect with energy law and administrative law. “Professor Lisa Benjamin has unique experience working in climate justice and climate risk,” said Professor Katrina Kuh, Haub Distinguished Professor of Environmental Law. “Her deep research on energy and climate justice and participation in international climate negotiations is the type of thought leadership and action that we look for when selecting Haub Law’s junior scholar.”

Professor Benjamin is a widely published scholar and has written a book and several articles and book chapters on non-state actors and climate risk, as well as energy and climate justice in developing countries, including small island developing states. Her book is titled “Companies and Climate Change: Theory and Law in the United Kingdom,” and her scholarship has been published in Transnational Environmental Law, Loyola Law Review, Utah Law Review, among many others. She is also the Vice Chair of the UNFCCC Compliance Committee (Facilitative Branch), a Director of Verde PDX (an environmental justice NGO), co-Chair of the Climate Accountability working group of the Climate Social Science Network, and a member of the Expert Peer Review Group in the Race to Zero campaign (a UN-backed global campaign to rally leadership and support from businesses, cities, regions, investors for a healthy, resilient, zero carbon recovery). Previously, she was the legal advisor to The Bahamas during the UNFCCC Paris Agreement negotiations.

“It is an honor to receive the 2022-23 Pace | Haub Environmental Law Distinguished Junior Scholar Award,” said Professor Lisa Benjamin. “I am delighted to be recognized as an emerging scholar by the number one Environmental Law program in the United States. It is an incredible privilege to follow in the steps of such accomplished previous recipients. I am eager to share my scholarship and present my work at Haub Law.”

Professor Benjamin received her BA from McGill University, her LL.B. from the University College London, her LLM from University of London, and her PhD from the University of Leicester. Last year’s Distinguished Junior Scholar award recipient was Vanessa Casado Pérez, Associate Professor of Law, and Dean’s Research Chair at Texas A&M School of Law.

“We are proud to designate Professor Benjamin as our 2022-23 Environmental Law Distinguished Junior Scholar Award,” said Jason Czarnezki, Gilbert and Sarah Kerlin Distinguished Professor of Environmental Law and Associate Dean of Environmental Law Programs and Strategic Initiatives. “The Haub Law community will benefit tremendously from learning more about Professor Benjamin’s innovative research in the areas of climate justice and climate risk.” Professor Lisa Benjamin will deliver a presentation to the Haub Law community in Fall 2023.

Professor Andrea Kupfer Schneider, Director of the Kukin Program for Conflict Resolution at Cardozo School of Law, Yeshiva University, delivered the 2023 Philip B. Blank Memorial Lecture on Attorney Ethics on Wednesday, March 1, speaking on "The Conflict in Arbitrator Conflict of Interest Disclosures: Public Judges or Private Neutrals?" The Philip B. Blank Memorial Lecture on Attorney Ethics was established by the family, friends and colleagues of the late Philip B. Blank, Associate Dean for External Affairs and Professor of Law at Pace University School of Law. In honor of Dean Blank's commitment to legal ethics, the Blank Lecture has presented distinguished members of the legal community recognized for their leadership in the area of attorney ethics and practice.

Elisabeth Haub School of Law Dean Horace E. Anderson Jr. gave welcoming remarks and had the pleasure of introducing Professor Andrea Kupfer Schneider. Dean Anderson noted that Professor Schneider is a “renowned professor, scholar and lecturer specializing in negotiation, plea bargaining, negotiation pedagogy, ethics, gender and international conflict.”

During her insightful lecture, Professor Schneider started by explaining to the audience that “Arbitration is ubiquitous. It is everywhere, so we really should pay attention to what is going on.” She focused on the role of the arbitrator, who is a private decision-maker substituted for a public judge, and how our legal system ensures that arbitrators are neutral to maintain justice. She posed three critical questions: At what point in the arbitration process do we ensure justice? Who is the best actor to enforce justice in arbitration? And, what is the best ethical standard we should use to guarantee arbitrator neutrality?

Professor Schneider then reviewed the current standards of neutrality under both the Federal Arbitration Act (“evident partiality” could lead to vacatur of an award) and various forum rules, which focus on pre-hearing disclosure of circumstances that create even an appearance of bias. She demonstrated how these standards do not always lead to an arbitration panel without bias or an appearance of bias. In terms of reform, Professor Schneider stated that, in part because “courts have been absolutely reluctant to rule on disqualification,” revising the Act to provide clear language would be best. “An amendment that gives courts the ability to review or step in earlier in the arbitration process to ensure that the neutrals are the right neutrals in the first place would likely be the best option for reform,” said Professor Schneider.

Professor Schneider is the Director of the Kukin Program for Conflict Resolution at Cardozo School of Law, Yeshiva University. Previously, she was director of the nationally ranked ADR program at Marquette University Law School for over two decades, where she was also the inaugural director of the university’s Institute for Women’s Leadership. She has been the recipient of numerous awards including the Woman of the Year Award by the Wisconsin Law Journal and the Association for Women Lawyers. She also received the ABA Section of Dispute Resolution Award for Outstanding Scholarly Work, the highest scholarly award given by the ABA in the field of dispute resolution. Additionally, Professor Schneider is prolific author, with many articles and textbooks to her credit, including most recently Dispute Resolution: Beyond the Adversarial Model (with Carrie Menkel-Meadow, Lela Love and Michael Moffitt) now in its third edition. She regularly presents her work and provides negotiation trainings around the world. Among her many leadership roles, Professor Schneider is a founding editor of Indisputably, the blog for ADR law faculty, and the founder of the Dispute Resolution Works-in-Progress annual conference. Professor Schneider received her A.B. cum laude from Princeton University’s School of Public and International Affairs and her J.D. cum laude from Harvard Law School. She also received a Diploma from the Academy of European Law in Florence, Italy.

Following the lecture, law students, faculty and guests had an opportunity to ask questions during a Q&A session led by Haub Law Professor Jill Gross, an expert in dispute resolution and arbitration, along with an arbitrator for the American Arbitration Association. Many questions focused on the opportunity for reform in arbitration, with Professor Schneider noting that, “The interesting thing to me in tracking arbitration legislation is that there have been so many attempts in Congress for reform. I think that there could be a bipartisan agreement to give states more power or back some power.”

Past Blank lectures were delivered by various distinguished experts and academics in the area of Attorney Ethics and Practice, including most recently, Irene Oritseweyinmi Joe, Professor of Law, UC Davis School of Law, Mimi Rocah, Westchester County District Attorney, and others.

Katie Stephens

Class of 2024

Currently Studying: BBA in Arts and Entertainment Management with minors in Digital Marketing and Law

Member Of: Pace Music Group

Pronouns: She/Her/Hers

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For Katie Stephens, working in the music industry has been a lifelong dream. Luckily, she's on the right path to fulfilling that dream. Not only will Katie graduate in May 2023 with her BBA in Arts and Entertainment Management, but she's also the Marketing Director for Pace Music Group and a representative for Warner Music U, proving that she's on her way to a successful career in the industry.

Why did you choose Pace University and the Lubin School of Business?

Growing up in a small town in Louisiana, I knew I wanted to go to a big city like New York City, but I also wanted a community. Pace University provides both of those opportunities.

How have clubs on campus helped enrich your student experience?

I was an active member of the Industry Network during my freshman year. I am now the Marketing Director of Pace Music Group. Both organizations have helped me grow my network and have given me a sense of community!

The Lubin School of Business is giving me the resources I need in order to learn about the music industry while also connecting me with real-life opportunities to learn (i.e., events, concerts, volunteer work). Since Pace is on the smaller side, as well, I have been able to connect with alumni who were once in my shoes, which has helped me get hired at two of my internships!

How is the Lubin School of Business helping you achieve your dreams of working in the music industry?

The Lubin School of Business is giving me the resources I need in order to learn about the music industry while also connecting me with real-life opportunities to learn (i.e., events, concerts, volunteer work). Since Pace is on the smaller side, as well, I have been able to connect with alumni who were once in my shoes, which has helped me get hired at two of my internships!

You serve as a representative for Warner Music U. How have your business classes helped you succeed in this role?

My marketing courses have helped me learn different marketing strategies. Event Management (MGT 312) has helped me a ton with designing and planning the events that I'm required to throw on campus. Next to that, I would not understand most of the industry terminology that I do now if it weren't for the "How the Entertainment Industry Works" course with Professor Paul Guzzone.

What has been your favorite opportunity at Pace?

My favorite opportunity so far has been planning and hosting the End of Year Showcase with Pace Music Group. We brought in a professional artist to headline and gave Pace students the opportunity to open for them.

Do you have any advice for other Lubin students?

Ask questions! Network with your peers! Network at off-campus events (go to a concert and introduce yourself to the tour manager, merch people, etc.) and be active on campus! Companies want to see you involved in more than just work-related activities and events.

What does #LubinLife mean to you?

#LubinLife means community. I've had so many Pace alumni help me with interviews and resume reviews, and I strive to do that for other students! I'm very fortunate to have landed the positions that I have, and I want to make sure other Lubin students have the resources and knowledge they need to land the positions they want!

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Harold E. Kaplan is a dual degree graduate of Pace University, having received his BBA in 1972 from Pace University, and his JD in 1983 from what was then known as Pace Law. After spending years in hospital administration, Harold reached out to former Pace University President Edward Mortola and began seriously considering law school. Three years later, in 1980, Harold began his law school journey and then in 1983, he graduated and was admitted to the NY Bar, prepared well by the Law School to start his career as a health law attorney. Over the years, Harold has been a generous supporter of both Pace University and the Elisabeth Haub School of Law at Pace University. Most recently, he endowed a scholarship, the Harold E. Kaplan Health Law and Policy Scholarship, to support students who are passionate about Health Law and Policy. Learn more about Harold, his time spent at Pace, his career, and more in this Q&A.

Can you tell me a bit about your background and undergraduate experience at Pace?

I grew up in Brooklyn and decided I wanted an undergraduate business degree. Although accepted to several colleges, I liked that Pace was then a small private school, so I attended what was then Pace College, from the fall 1968 to June 1972 and graduated with a BBA with concentrations in Law, Taxation and Economics.

Being a small school, among other things, I became acquainted with Pace President, Edward Mortola. He was always accessible to students and became a friend. It was the kind of student experience which endears the student to the school.

Albert Kalter, who taught all the undergraduate taxation courses, was the best professor I had, (and there were many excellent ones). Federal and state taxation are not the easiest subjects, and he was a great educator who took the time to explain what he was teaching. He taught his students how to read, interpret and understand the tax code which is not a simple task. He insisted that students come to class prepared, and you always knew where you stood with him. If you were unprepared, he asked that the student leave; this only happened once. He and I became good friends.

Importantly, most of the undergraduate courses I took required a term paper. After graduating, I attended the University of Ottawa, in Ottawa, Ontario, earning my Master of Health Administration degree. Given the many required research or term papers I wrote, I was well prepared for graduate school, which required numerous term papers, and to graduate, a research thesis.

Did you always want to be a lawyer?

I had considered it as an undergraduate student, but I also wanted to be a hospital administrator. When I received a traffic ticket in 1971, I asked for an administrative hearing in Manhattan traffic court and with a little persuading and careful reading of the New York State traffic code, and photographs of the street where the alleged offense occurred, I was found “not guilty”. The police officer who testified against me wasn’t happy. At home, my parents encouraged me to go to law school, but I still was more interested in hospital administration.

What was your path to law school and then ultimately to pursuing a law degree?

In 1974, I began my hospital administration career at a major NYC teaching hospital. I was negotiating contracts for expensive high tech medical equipment, and when reading purchase contracts, which I often did, I became interested in the law. When one of my departments had an ongoing dispute over an expensive piece of equipment, I was able to extend the warranty, arguing that the hospital hadn’t accepted the equipment because it didn’t meet the terms of the purchase agreement. At that point, I began to understand the value of having a law degree.

What made you choose Pace for your law degree?

Pace University was an excellent choice for my college degree and I always thought very highly of the school which had a growing reputation. In 1977, I spoke with President Edward Mortola about Pace Law , who urged me to apply to its new law school. Instead, I detoured to Florida to be the Assistant Administrator at a large community hospital. Shortly thereafter, I decided to go to law school and being in Florida, considered schools in Florida and NY. Applying to Pace Law made sense since I felt that it would provide an excellent legal education. Once accepted, my wife and I relocated from South Florida to Westchester County. Of course, three years earlier, Dr. Mortola strongly recommend that I attend Pace Law, and he and Professor Kalter were helpful references.

Who were some of the most memorable professors you had during your time as a law student?

There were many. Professor Philip Blank who taught legal methods and wills and estates. Professor Crockett who taught tax law. Professors Doernberg and Zeigler, who had very organized teaching methods and were both excellent educators. Professors John Humbach and Hervey Johnson were both excellent educators and Professor Joseph, who taught several commercial law courses and was always very accessible to students. Professors Ralph Stein and Bartlett as well. All of these professors were accessible, cared about their students, and left a very positive impression on me. They each had different teaching styles but as a group made being a law student more interesting, a little easier and sometimes fun.

What did you enjoy most about law school?

Considering it my occupation, I enjoyed the intellectual challenge of reading, understanding and briefing cases. I usually was at the law library when the door was unlocked in the AM which in some ways still felt like going to work. I long hand briefed every case and doing so, enjoyed sitting in class and putting check marks in my notebook, next to my notes about the key points being made by the professor about the holding, and the facts. It was a game and being a law student was actually fun.

What lessons from law school stayed with you?

Take your job seriously and do it well. Don’t automatically rely on others to get the job done if you are supposed to do it yourself. Delegate carefully.

You were a health law attorney for over thirty years, practicing mainly in Florida, what drew you to that area of law?

Being a former hospital executive, for me, it was natural to become a health lawyer, although I briefly considered taxation law which I was also interested in and was, to my understanding, equally difficult. At the first firm I worked at in New York City, we represented hospitals. When I opened my own practice in South Florida, I became an attorney for physicians, physician practices and other licensed health care professionals, since virtually all the hospitals already had representation.

During your time as a health law attorney, what did you find most rewarding and/or challenging about that practice area?

It was very rewarding to represent medical practices which had a wide range of legal issues making the day-to-day practice much more interesting and rewarding. Whether by good fortune or good lawyering, most of the matters I handled were resolved in my clients’ favor. I was also very active in the Florida Bar’s Health Law Section which was rewarding. I was often program chair and spoke at many Florida Bar CLE programs and volunteered for most of the Section’s positions, including ascending to Chair of the Section.

Currently, you provide arbitration services – how does that compare to your law practice?

I took the required Florida one week course to become a Certified Mediator and began mediating disputes. Shortly thereafter, the American Health Law Association began its ADR service, and recruited attorneys to be mediators and arbitrator. I started taking arbitration courses and stopped mediating.

Traditionally, arbitration was sought out by commercial disputants to serve as an efficient and final mechanism to resolve disputes, which today still remain key factors for choosing arbitration over traditional litigation. Arbitration is very different from practicing law, but at its core, you need to be an experienced attorney, sensitive to due process, hearing practice, etc. and most of all assume a leadership role in the arbitration case to avoid delays and make the process as effective and efficient as reasonably possible. Party’s attorneys usually prefer arbitrators with subject matter knowledge and experience to serve as arbitrators. Being an arbitrator teaches you to be very quiet about what you are hearing and reading and make carefully considered statements. With the right arbitrator, arbitration is beneficial to resolving commercial disputes.

You have always been a generous supporter of your alma mater, thank you. Recently, you endowed a scholarship, the Harold Kaplan Health Law and Policy Scholarship, to support students who are passionate about Health Law and Policy - as an alumnus, why do you feel it is important to give back?

As an undergraduate student, Pace University prepared me well for graduate school, and it didn’t take long to discover that Pace Law equally prepared me well for practicing law. Overall, the Pace community is very special to me, and I wanted to support its continuing mission, now and in the future. I also wanted to support law students who have an interest in health law and also take the opportunity to simply show my support for the Law School.

Do you have any advice for current or future law students?

I have lots of advice for current and future law students most of which can only be imparted one on one. However, future law students should have an understanding of the hard work required to excel in law school and also as a practicing attorney. Being an attorney and doing it well is not easy. Law students should enjoy learning about the law and should take sufficient time to read and understand the cases. It is stimulating to learn about how the law has evolved, and understand that once they are attorneys, they are joining a sacred profession which provides important services to their selected portion of society. Finally, become active in your bar association, and especially in your area of practice and always network.

What are some of your passions aside from the law?

I have many interests, but I still enjoy giving back. I am a volunteer attorney at Pisgah Legal Services in Asheville, NC, and helping those less fortunate and unable to afford and hire an attorney is very important to me. There is also a large group of retired volunteer attorneys in Asheville and being part of this group is very rewarding. I also frequently bike ride and play the piano. And, most importantly, my wife, my children, and grandchildren, are important to me so I dedicate time to family.

After taking the LSAT’s on a whim during her senior year in college, Professor Michelle Simon found her passion in the law immediately after starting law school at Syracuse University College of Law. Having spent time clerking and in private practice after law school, she was hired as a professor in 1985 by Pace Law’s first female dean, Janet Johnson. Twenty-two years later, Professor Simon would also serve as dean of the Law School, making her the third female dean in the school’s history. During this women’s history month, learn more about one of Haub Law’s female trailblazers, Dean Emerita and Professor of Law, Michelle Simon, in this candid Q&A.

You joined what was then known as Pace Law School in 1985 and became interim dean of the school in 2007, followed by dean of the school from 2008-2014. What was your experience like as the third female Dean of the Law School?

Dean Janet Johnson was the first female Dean and the Dean when I started at Pace in 1985. She served from 1983-1989 and was a true mentor to me. She hired me and gave me opportunities to teach different courses. In addition, Barbara Black served as an interim dean in 1993-1994 and also served as a mentor. I was very lucky as dean. At Pace, we always had many women faculty and staff, and it was a very supportive place for a woman. In addition to the support of the previous female deans at Pace, I also had the support of other female law deans. I was fortunate to have these outlets to turn to for support and advice.

Who are some of your female role models – both in and outside of the legal and academic field?

Judith Kaye, Eleanor Roosevelt, Professor Barbara Salken, and my grandmother – to name a few. Judith Kaye was the first woman named to serve on the NY Court of Appeals, and the first to serve as the Chief Judge. She focused on creating alternatives to sending defendants to jail especially for crimes involving drugs and domestic violence. She was a forward thinker and trailblazer. Eleanor Roosevelt, who was an advocate of the rights of the poor, minorities and disadvantaged, and exercised her own political and social influence. Professor Salken, a beloved professor at Pace, who died of cancer way too soon (there is a tree named after her in the courtyard). She always supported me and pushed me to become a scholar and teacher. And my grandmother, who left her life in Hungary in 1938 to escape the Nazis with her husband and my father, worked in a factory in the United States, and was one of the strongest women I ever knew. She believed in me and instilled in me that I could accomplish anything.

Although things have improved in terms of equality for men and women in the workplace, do you still feel there are roadblocks or double standards that women face?

While things are better, there are still many roadblocks. It is very difficult to juggle having a family and a legal career. While many women are entering the legal field, most managing partners and leadership positions still belong to men. I think the pandemic has helped society understand the need for more flexible working conditions, but that doesn’t impact the need to satisfy a certain number of billable hours.

How can women help empower other women in their careers and otherwise?

Be kind and supportive to each other.

Let’s step back for a moment, when did you know you wanted to be a lawyer?

I never thought about being a lawyer. My father was a professional violinist, and my mother was an art historian, so I grew up in the arts and majored in studio art and anthropology in college. I actually started a master’s degree in art therapy at Pratt Institute. When I was a senior in college, many of my friends were taking the LSAT and I decided I would too. I ended up scoring very well, and that’s when I started thinking about law school especially because I always loved both writing and researching. When I started law school, I fell in love with it and knew I had found my passion.

How did you come to join Pace as a professor?

I was always interested in law teaching, and I tried to shape my career that way by clerking, then working in private practice, and writing. I also taught as an adjunct in a paralegal program. I applied to several law schools to be a professor and had several offers, but I loved the people at Pace. It always felt like a family. I feel very fortunate to have chosen both academia and Pace, I truly think I have the best job in the world.

What is your favorite course to teach?

I love teaching civil procedure. I remember how challenging I found it to be when I was in law school, and I know that students find it difficult. I like to *try* to make it less frightening. I also love teaching torts, which is really all about analytical thinking.

You have held some prominent positions at Pace, which was the most challenging?

My time as Dean of the Law School was both my greatest challenge and my greatest achievement. It was challenging at times because you have so many constituencies—the University Trustees, the University President, the Provost, the law school faculty, law school staff, alumni, and of course the students. However, it was a very fascinating and rewarding experience as well. I had served as a trustee on a school board for 21 years and there were many similarities, but instead of thinking about what was best for all the children in my district, I was guided by what was best for all the law students at the law school.

What should students be thinking about as they enter the legal field?

I think it is important for students to think ahead about what they want their lives to look like. Your first job is not your last job, but it can be a stepping stone to the next opportunity. There has to be work-life balance, and the practice of law can be very stressful. If you are unhappy, there is nothing wrong with making a change and going in another direction. And, in whatever job you end up in, find a way to make yourself indispensable.

Aside from our mandatory first year courses, what classes would you recommend a law student should take before graduating?

It should be a mixture of courses that are tested on the bar exam (you don’t want to learn too many courses for the first time while you are studying for the bar) plus courses that look interesting to you, plus courses that are taught by a faculty member you enjoy, plus experiential courses so you get some idea about what practicing law is like. I was very surprised when I started to work about how different the practice of law was from law school.

Academically, what are you working on right now?

I am working on an article about the relationship between law students and University counseling offices and how we can better address the mental health issues in law school.

What are some of your passions and interests outside of the classroom?

I still love art. I am currently interested in honing my skills on the pottery wheel. I also have a house on Cape Cod and I love hiking, bicycling, fishing, and walking on the beach. And I have three children and so far, three grandchildren, so I love spending time with all of them.

As recipients of a 2022 Dyson Summer Research Award, Dante Dallago ’24, Directing and Peace and Justice Studies, and Kalina Walaski ’24, Acting and Peace and Justice Studies, collaborated on “Happy Holidays,” an investigative theater performance piece exploring the dynamics of the holiday dinner table from the perspective of Gen Z students. They will present it at the International Peace Research Association Conference in Trinidad and Tobago in May.

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How did the idea for this project come about?

KALINA: We were in our Activist as Artist, Artist as Activist class with Professor Emily Welty, PhD, and that was a unique class in which we learned theory on one day, and the next day did a workshop of a specific art piece. Professor Welty came to us asking if we wanted to do a more research-based project on peace and justice studies and theater.

DANTE: At first, it was just going to be more of a research-type paper. But then we all agreed that we wanted to do a theater piece with it as well.

You describe this piece as investigative theater. What is investigative theater and why is it impactful?

KALINA: Investigative theater goes under this blanket genre of documentary theater, which everybody fights about in the theater world because people can't agree on what it really means. Basically, documentary theater is theater that's based on real-life source material, real stories, and real people.

Investigative theater is a type of documentary theater that’s more interview-based, in which you research specific people and stories, and then create a play based off that. It's important because theater is such an expansive medium. The audience may not have had any interest [in a certain topic] before, but you put a story in front of them that prompts them to feel something emotionally. Even though you can't control what they feel emotionally, they're still feeling something and getting that story.

DANTE: We decided to do an investigative theater piece because we all knew how to go about it. Our professor had training in it, and it’s closely related to peace and justice studies because we are investigating real-life issues and then putting them on stage.

What was the most rewarding part of working on this piece?

DANTE: For me, it was cool to see the text from the interviews come to life with these stories and how our work came to fruition in these characters. And it was so fun getting to work on it with Kalina and Professor Welty because we all brought our own perspectives to it, and it just made it that much better.

Conversely, what was the most challenging thing that you've had to face working on this piece?

KALINA: I had never done a large research project like this before, and I had also never really interviewed anyone before. So, that was a learning experience because I didn't think I was going to be very good at it. But it was a lot of fun when I got the hang of it. I also had to learn how to do research at the beginning of this, but Professor Welty helped us decide what was most important and how to organize our information.

What has been the most surprising or unexpected thing that you've learned from working on this piece?

DANTE: For me, it’s that verbatim theater is a lot more crafted than one might think because as we edit these stories, we decide what pieces of text from the interviews work, and which don’t. There are a lot of ethics that go into investigative theater and documentary theater, and even in verbatim theater, because you want to make sure that you're still telling the interviewees’ story in the right context, in the right way, in how they want to portray it.

KALINA: I'm very surprised by how emotionally attached I am to the interviews I worked on. It’s so hard to cut parts out because I think they're so funny and so interesting. I wasn't expecting to hold onto something so dearly, and it goes along with the ethics of cutting certain things out, especially when you have your own possible biases of what you want to include.

Theater and its performance aspect put a magnifying glass to the world. Theater is a great way to focus on current issues in the world.

The combination of peace and justice studies and performing arts is an unexpected one. How do you view them as being connected and why did you choose to study both?

DANTE: I think the inherent storytelling structure of theater is so beneficial to peace and justice studies because theater tells a story where there is a conflict and a resolution, and the characters will grow from it. Often, we view conflict as a bad thing, but it can be beneficial. And that's what peace and justice studies is—it’s all about how we transform conflict into a positive outcome and how we can learn from it as well.

KALINA: I also think that theater and its performance aspect put a magnifying glass to the world. Theater is a great way to focus on current issues in the world.

How has this piece inspired any future research or artistic work that you hope to do?

KALINA: The two of us and Professor Welty are really interested in continuing and have been meeting to discuss how we can make this play more sustainable and more interesting. We're working on our upcoming presentation for the International Peace Research Association Conference in Trinidad and Tobago in May, and possibly putting on a showing or doing a workshop reading of this play. This project has gotten me more interested in documentary theater and all its different forms.

DANTE: I'm a playwright, so I like writing plays in a lot of different styles. Because of this experience, most of them now are deeply rooted in research, similar to work one would do for a research paper, allowing the characters to have more depth.

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A BA in Film and Screen Studies major, you received a Provost Office Student Faculty Undergraduate Research Initiative Award to visit an Ukrainian refugee camp in Ballyvaughan, a small Irish village of only 220 people. While there, you interviewed the children about their experiences for a film you are producing, which also utilizes their drawings to illustrate their views on the meaning of “home.”

What was your experience like working with the children in the refugee camp?

What impressed me the most about the children was their compassion, resilience, creativity, and honesty. At first, they were very tentative when they met me. As I asked them questions and interacted with them more, they shared their thoughts, ideas, and memories. Their creativity was astonishing, and their paintings expressed everything I needed to know. Each child had such an interesting imagination and such a beautiful way of portraying the places they knew or created in their minds. In addition, each brush stroke was so purposeful and created a series of compelling images that portrayed exactly who they were. One of the young girls I interviewed, Masha, drew a beautiful culmination of her home in Ukraine as well as her home in Ireland. She would ship her paintings to her dad, who was still fighting in Ukraine, and her simple compassion towards me in inviting me to her Irish home is something I will never forget. I left my paint set, brushes, and watercolor paper for her.

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Your interest in this topic is very personal to you, as is this particular camp. Tell us more about that.

I was born and raised mostly in Ukraine, and first came to the US with my mom when I was five years old. I spent half of my childhood between Ukraine and California, attending school in the US and spending summers and winters in Ukraine with the rest of my family. I remember how confused I felt moving to a place I didn’t know and not understanding the language. My family that lived in Ukraine are now refugees currently living at the refugee camp in Ireland that I visited. I learned through them about the children living there and immediately saw a part of myself in them. Many were from the city I grew up in, and all were experiencing the displacement and lack of understanding that I once had experienced. Their displacement, however, is on an entirely different level, as they have no hope of returning to their homes in the foreseeable future.

How was your knowledge of Russian and English instrumental in your role and ultimate goal?

The town has only one school which the Ukrainian children were attending by the time I arrived, a very small one with only four classrooms. During the interviews, the Ukrainian children expressed to me how they found it difficult to not only understand what was being taught in their classes, but also the rules of classroom conduct, which were entirely different in Ireland. My knowledge of both languages at the very least enabled me to translate these and other experiences for them. In the beginning of the war, the media was so saturated with the technical aspects of the conflict: how many bombs were dropped, which cities were targeted, and how many refugees are fleeing to each country. This was extremely frustrating, and the goal of my project was to give Ukrainian children a platform and opportunity to share their memories and experiences with the world. I hope to continue giving them an opportunity to share their stories and to augment their voices for everyone to hear.

What challenges did you face in filming and how did this experience change you as a filmmaker?

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When I arrived in Ireland, I had to run camera, lighting, and sound simultaneously while conducting interviews, something immensely difficult from a technical perspective. I also pulled all-nighters with the composer of the film score, as we were on a time crunch. Editing 400 hours of film and hundreds of times over was also extremely difficult emotionally, as was seeing my family at the refugee camp and being heartbroken about how this experience has affected them. In addition, I struggled with obtaining currency in the rural areas, as well as finding food due to the nearest convenience store being miles away and not having a car.

Needless to say, every stage of the creation of this film was a challenge, but I am so proud of the result and believe that it was all more than worth it. This film has also definitely made me a better filmmaker. I learned how to properly pace myself when working on projects as well as how to engage in ethical filmmaking, especially with regards to the creation of documentaries.

What was it like working with your Dyson faculty mentor and other faculty on this project?

My experience working with Professor McDonald has been great! She is a very encouraging mentor who gave me the freedom to pursue my work in the way I wanted to while offering both support and critical feedback. I have also had incredible experiences with many of the faculty members that are part of the Film and Screen Studies Department. Each of them has been so helpful and consistently send me information to help me with the work I am doing, as well as share opportunities that I might be interested in. Jillian McDonald, Viktoria Paranyuk, Gloria Vela, and Luke Cantarella are all faculty that have greatly helped me in my journey with this film.

How did your coursework prepare you for this project?

The classes that best prepared me for this project were my video art classes with Professors McDonald and Michael Lantz, as well as those with Professor Andriy Danylenko that pertain to my minor in Russian Translation. My video art classes helped me discover and establish a visual style that I carry throughout my work and new ways to present my imagery utilizing different visual techniques and mediums. Without my coursework in Russian Translation, I would have been unequipped and highly inexperienced in translating for film and subtitling. One of the things that I appreciate most about Professor Danylenko's courses is the freedom and flexibility that he allows his students to work on translation within their fields of interest. This gave me the necessary exposure to translation in film that made the process of translating the subject's testimonies much easier.

The goal of my project was to give Ukrainian children a platform and opportunity to share their memories and experiences with the world.

Where are you in the process of creating the film? When and how will it be shared?

The film is practically complete and will premiere in Professor Viktoria Paranyuk’s Cinema and Migration class this spring. From there, I will be submitting it to a variety of film festivals for a brief festival run and aim to reach out to as many organizations that might be interested in streaming it on their platforms.

Why did you choose to study film at Pace?

I chose to attend Pace because I believe New York has a film scene that is far different from film-centric places such as LA, being far more experimental and passionate, in my opinion. Pace also has a very strong arts program which I believed would greatly supplement my work as a filmmaker.

What would you like to do upon graduation/what are your career goals?

Upon graduation, I would like to continue working as a filmmaker. Whether I am a director or a director of photography, I want to continue making films and contributing to the creative process. I am clearly into documentary filmmaking, but I am also exploring underwater cinematography and that is an area I am currently working towards establishing myself in.